3.113 thoughts on “1609 La tragedia de los Moriscos 2009”
yes they can perfectly I’m living in comunity with several muslims, and
cristians and agnostics as I am and we are fine with each other, all what
you say is theory, the pratice is that we are good friends, we are poor and
so we share, all that you have is prejudice and no real knowledge of
convivence, persons are persons and all that you do is to collect reasons
to hate, religion and homeland are the mean the powerful use to male the
poor kill each other
Echasteis a los sabios y cultos musulmanes y os quedasteis con los garrulos
cristianos asi estais
probably, in Tunis I met a descendant of them, it was really nice and I
could be one of their descendants, but I don’t do of religion or race a
casus belli. The conversions either in Al andalus or in Spain were more for
the convenience of paying less taxes or avoiding the religious persecution
(either the almoravid persecution against cristians or the inquisitional
against jewish and muslims) than for conviction, so for me everybody are
HUMANS and are welcome home, Spain is plural thanks god.
you are always welcome (at least on my behalf) but forget the fucking
weapons
Para cuando un documental que narre la tragedia de los hispanos cuando los
musulmanes los invadieron y dominaron convirtiendolos en sus criados e
inferiores?
ajajjajaja sigue soñando xD
Yes I know about the violences against poor innocents but Allah be thanked
that the innocents had their justice when they bombed Madrid trains full of
those bastards who made profit from the poverty of the majority. It
reminded people of the beauty of life when th Moors conquered Spain.
that happened fucking centuries ago, I know that because I studied story,
what is this?, a competition to see who is worse?, that’s bullshit usefull
for nothing, I don’t know any fucking country or religion which doesn’t
have deads in the close and it isn’t my project, a spaniard living in
Belgium to start a fucking holy war, belgians, dutch can also tell stories
about the spanish terror, man your nationalistic story just cause pain
you just do an demagogic lecture of history, enhacing the defects of the
others and forgetting those of the people your consider represent you. The
papers change as history goes, and when the muslims conquered my country
the had a clear advatage over the rest of the mediterranean word, latter it
change and it was my country who took that paper doing just the same that
arab fanatic are doing now with their country, Spain was sort of an islamic
republic of Iran in the XV century, but cristian
y portugueses, y gallegos, y catalanes, y vascos, y leoneses, y
valencianos, y arabeses,,,
expulsión de españoles por parte de españoles, nada más
Both languages are spoken here 🙂 I am arabian and I speak Amazigh
(berber) language too and both are my native languages
lees sólo una parte de una historia que es mucho más complicada, también es
verdad que en el siglo X los cristianos del norte emigraban al sur para
huir del feudalismo y que las mujeres cristianas bajaban para encontrar una
vida donde eran mucho más respetadas, los puestos estaban invertidos en
aquella época, los cristianos eran mucho más fanáticos, la repartición de
la riqueza más injusta y el analfabetismo mayor
decir eso hoy en dia es cachondeo! ja ja ja Mira como estamos!
yes and your solution looks to be, becoming as they are, you are seing what
is happenning to then, I could tell you even worst stories, the only enemy
is the fucking fanatism, cristians are doing the same in Uganda, comunist
in sinkiang with muslims, no many years ago in former yugoslavia catholics,
ortodox and muslims against each other.I’m fed up of your religious issues,
you look for what separate us in spite of what unites us. I leave in
comunity with muslims and cristians and we are fine
lista hecha según criterios occidentales, IRAN Y INDONESIA son pais mil
veces mas desarrollados que España o Portugal.
no es aplicable tu ejemplo, el retraso tecnologico que hay e el norte de
africa no es debido al islam, sino a los gobernantes pro-occidentales
enemigos de la sabiduria y enemigos de sus propios pueblos, mira IRAN,
INDONESIA, país musulmanes son muchisimo mas desarrollados que españa o
portugal y que otros muchos paises europeos.
If the Moorish culture was so great why didn’t the Moors recreate it in
their own homeland?
I knew it, very nice and if you want I give you a date, 70, 20,10, 20
semitic that means phoenician, cartaginian, jewish or arab and 10 from
north africa and that is very nice, i like it. The moriscos had to go to
north africa the same the mozarabs (cristians from al andalus) had to go to
the cristians kingdoms wen almohads and almoravids invaded, nobody is free
of guilt in this fucking story, for me it makes no sense to keep these
resentments, why in your country is spoken arab an not berber?
that’s crap, the moriscos nerver were more than 25% of the population and
that in the valencian kingdom, the moriscos tried to leave in peace and
only rebeled when the cristians tried to impose their religion and by the
way they were in their country, that was an ethnical cleansing, the same
that serbians try to do with muslims in bosnia and muslims with cristians
and shiis in Iraq, I’m fed up of your fucking religions and countries,
that’s the reason becouse I’m agnostic
the morisc were mostly iberic cristians who converted to pay less taxes,
the same way the pagans converted into cristianism when the roman empire,
spain has been many things during its history, and that’s ok for me, the
worst that happened in my country was the expulsion of jewish and muslims
that created a terrible crisis very difficult to overcome, by the way, the
morisc became very porweful in north africa cause they were very well
prepared tecnically and became an upper caste
The Arabs conquered many lands,which unlike theirs, were civilized. This
created a trade «motorway» and remnants of the conquered civilizations
carried them forward for a couple of hundreds of years. Eventually the
primitive Quran/Shariah were bound to make Islamic countries poor, wretched
and at each others’ throats. We should keep them away. I don’t know whether
you’re Spanish or a Muslim practicing Taqija but I look forward to the EU
elections which will return 30% against the EU
they didn’t ask permission to invade north africa, they burned the
alexandrian library, the almoravids and almohad made ethnical cleansing in
my country expulsing the mozarabs, and now they are mistreating each other
in Iraq and expulsing cristians and caldeans, in pakistan thay are killing
cristians and between shia and sunny…, the copts are suffering
persecution in Misr, listen is the same history always, wherever you look,
that’s the reason I’m agnostic, in the name of good you kill better
es la verdad…por mucha crisis que tenga España…siempre quedará muy
lejos de la crisis crónica, la corrupción, pobreza e ignorancia del magreb
España con la crisis al momento de este comentario esta mejor, pese a que
ya tiene muchos siglos que el dominio musulman termino?, eres un
nacionalista barato, un fantoche de tercera con enfermos delirios de
grandeza.
yes they can perfectly I’m living in comunity with several muslims, and
cristians and agnostics as I am and we are fine with each other, all what
you say is theory, the pratice is that we are good friends, we are poor and
so we share, all that you have is prejudice and no real knowledge of
convivence, persons are persons and all that you do is to collect reasons
to hate, religion and homeland are the mean the powerful use to male the
poor kill each other
Echasteis a los sabios y cultos musulmanes y os quedasteis con los garrulos
cristianos asi estais
probably, in Tunis I met a descendant of them, it was really nice and I
could be one of their descendants, but I don’t do of religion or race a
casus belli. The conversions either in Al andalus or in Spain were more for
the convenience of paying less taxes or avoiding the religious persecution
(either the almoravid persecution against cristians or the inquisitional
against jewish and muslims) than for conviction, so for me everybody are
HUMANS and are welcome home, Spain is plural thanks god.
you are always welcome (at least on my behalf) but forget the fucking
weapons
Para cuando un documental que narre la tragedia de los hispanos cuando los
musulmanes los invadieron y dominaron convirtiendolos en sus criados e
inferiores?
ajajjajaja sigue soñando xD
Yes I know about the violences against poor innocents but Allah be thanked
that the innocents had their justice when they bombed Madrid trains full of
those bastards who made profit from the poverty of the majority. It
reminded people of the beauty of life when th Moors conquered Spain.
that happened fucking centuries ago, I know that because I studied story,
what is this?, a competition to see who is worse?, that’s bullshit usefull
for nothing, I don’t know any fucking country or religion which doesn’t
have deads in the close and it isn’t my project, a spaniard living in
Belgium to start a fucking holy war, belgians, dutch can also tell stories
about the spanish terror, man your nationalistic story just cause pain
you just do an demagogic lecture of history, enhacing the defects of the
others and forgetting those of the people your consider represent you. The
papers change as history goes, and when the muslims conquered my country
the had a clear advatage over the rest of the mediterranean word, latter it
change and it was my country who took that paper doing just the same that
arab fanatic are doing now with their country, Spain was sort of an islamic
republic of Iran in the XV century, but cristian
y portugueses, y gallegos, y catalanes, y vascos, y leoneses, y
valencianos, y arabeses,,,
expulsión de españoles por parte de españoles, nada más
Both languages are spoken here 🙂 I am arabian and I speak Amazigh
(berber) language too and both are my native languages
lees sólo una parte de una historia que es mucho más complicada, también es
verdad que en el siglo X los cristianos del norte emigraban al sur para
huir del feudalismo y que las mujeres cristianas bajaban para encontrar una
vida donde eran mucho más respetadas, los puestos estaban invertidos en
aquella época, los cristianos eran mucho más fanáticos, la repartición de
la riqueza más injusta y el analfabetismo mayor
decir eso hoy en dia es cachondeo! ja ja ja Mira como estamos!
yes and your solution looks to be, becoming as they are, you are seing what
is happenning to then, I could tell you even worst stories, the only enemy
is the fucking fanatism, cristians are doing the same in Uganda, comunist
in sinkiang with muslims, no many years ago in former yugoslavia catholics,
ortodox and muslims against each other.I’m fed up of your religious issues,
you look for what separate us in spite of what unites us. I leave in
comunity with muslims and cristians and we are fine
lista hecha según criterios occidentales, IRAN Y INDONESIA son pais mil
veces mas desarrollados que España o Portugal.
no es aplicable tu ejemplo, el retraso tecnologico que hay e el norte de
africa no es debido al islam, sino a los gobernantes pro-occidentales
enemigos de la sabiduria y enemigos de sus propios pueblos, mira IRAN,
INDONESIA, país musulmanes son muchisimo mas desarrollados que españa o
portugal y que otros muchos paises europeos.
If the Moorish culture was so great why didn’t the Moors recreate it in
their own homeland?
I knew it, very nice and if you want I give you a date, 70, 20,10, 20
semitic that means phoenician, cartaginian, jewish or arab and 10 from
north africa and that is very nice, i like it. The moriscos had to go to
north africa the same the mozarabs (cristians from al andalus) had to go to
the cristians kingdoms wen almohads and almoravids invaded, nobody is free
of guilt in this fucking story, for me it makes no sense to keep these
resentments, why in your country is spoken arab an not berber?
that’s crap, the moriscos nerver were more than 25% of the population and
that in the valencian kingdom, the moriscos tried to leave in peace and
only rebeled when the cristians tried to impose their religion and by the
way they were in their country, that was an ethnical cleansing, the same
that serbians try to do with muslims in bosnia and muslims with cristians
and shiis in Iraq, I’m fed up of your fucking religions and countries,
that’s the reason becouse I’m agnostic
the morisc were mostly iberic cristians who converted to pay less taxes,
the same way the pagans converted into cristianism when the roman empire,
spain has been many things during its history, and that’s ok for me, the
worst that happened in my country was the expulsion of jewish and muslims
that created a terrible crisis very difficult to overcome, by the way, the
morisc became very porweful in north africa cause they were very well
prepared tecnically and became an upper caste
The Arabs conquered many lands,which unlike theirs, were civilized. This
created a trade «motorway» and remnants of the conquered civilizations
carried them forward for a couple of hundreds of years. Eventually the
primitive Quran/Shariah were bound to make Islamic countries poor, wretched
and at each others’ throats. We should keep them away. I don’t know whether
you’re Spanish or a Muslim practicing Taqija but I look forward to the EU
elections which will return 30% against the EU
they didn’t ask permission to invade north africa, they burned the
alexandrian library, the almoravids and almohad made ethnical cleansing in
my country expulsing the mozarabs, and now they are mistreating each other
in Iraq and expulsing cristians and caldeans, in pakistan thay are killing
cristians and between shia and sunny…, the copts are suffering
persecution in Misr, listen is the same history always, wherever you look,
that’s the reason I’m agnostic, in the name of good you kill better
es la verdad…por mucha crisis que tenga España…siempre quedará muy
lejos de la crisis crónica, la corrupción, pobreza e ignorancia del magreb
España con la crisis al momento de este comentario esta mejor, pese a que
ya tiene muchos siglos que el dominio musulman termino?, eres un
nacionalista barato, un fantoche de tercera con enfermos delirios de
grandeza.